that's where ali sat down with eric kantor to discuss washington's next big political battle budget. >> when you look at the options out there, president obama's budget proposal and paul ryan's offer, they both don't do what guys say need to be done. now you have a proposal that said you will balance the budget in years. i asked paul ryan this and i can't get an answer. how? it's going to hurt. >> there new base lines in the budget. as we know, some of the difficulty and the differences in washington were centered around the method of accounting whether it's static or dynamic. when you raise taxes, that $650 billion of additional tacks that went in because of the cliff deal, that adjusts the base line. that is going to make the numbers look differently. right? we will have to make choices. no question about it. we have committed to putting a budget out there that will bring it to balance within years. >> the fact is nobody seems to want to own up to a budget that will hurt. >> the ryan budget, the last didn't balance in almost 30 years. the way we were trying to move said look. like